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Punishing the evil.
Topic Started: Aug 19 2007, 07:46 PM (1,428 Views)
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Well i was reading some articales on another forum about some twisted people like pedofiles who have done unbelieveable things to children and still laugh when they go to prison or someone who had hunted someone who ages and torchured them for a laugh until finally killing them. Theres many more examples but thats a couple, bassically do you think we should do what were doing now and put them in jail for a very long time as violence and revenge dont solve anything or repay them? I mean like scaring them and making them feel the same way as they made their victims feel? Prison means nothing to some of these people and replaying them would make them relise the pain and suffering others went through.

Maybe if you were left in a room with one them and they were helpless you wouldnt do anything but id want them to feel the same pain, the same suffering as they made inosent people feel. Debate away.
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I agree, jail and death sentence to these guys are nothing. I say make them suffer more than what they made other people suffer, thats the one thing thats worst than death. They tortured a person? Torture them even worst. I don't care what anyones says, they were the ones to commit the crime they deserve to be treated worst, and no its not going down to their level, its teaching them a lesson. I am seriously getting sick of all these sickos around, its just disgusting whats happening around.

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I feel like if we made them feel the same way as they made their victims even if they have evil intentions they would think twice because of what might happen if their caught.
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I would say make them feel even worst. I don't think its fair to make them feel the same if they committed the crime for stupid reasons, only making them feel worse will ever work.

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Exactly! I mean these people have no lives anyway so putting them in jail isnt them makin them miss out on their "great" lives. Equal return or even worse is completey acceptable in such cercumstances. You almost want to see the fear in the their eyes. The pay back will just.
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Yep, I mean imagine how the victim's familys must be feeling, heck if it was my family, I would want to see fear in the criminal's eyes, I would want to see the look of pain in him.

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I think that punishing a person the way he or she did to another person himself is very inhuman. Of course, those people acted inhuman too, but it isn't always an eye for an eye.

We have laws and we have human rights. What you guys are talking about is bending the laws and disobey the human rights in a pretty damaging way.


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I seriously wouldn't care for people like that, I wouldn't feel bad nor remorse. THEY DID IT FIRST, without a heart, and what we are just going to let them be fine? See, this is why people do what they do, cause they know the BS of oh we can't go that low and stuff will come so they get a free pass with jail or death penalty.

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That's crap. people do that because the are mentally ill. Or people do it because of desperation, which is another subject.

People who murder don't do it because they realise that the law will protect them when they get caught, they do it because they are sick.

Remorse is what those people are lacking and you want to tell me that you'd do the same? What would be the difference between you and those people then? Tell me. Do you call that justice? Sinking down to a murderers level?

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Seriously if one of the people I loved would be the victim, what the hell would i have to lose?

And no they aren't mentally ill thats also crap. Most of these serial killers out there are smarter than everyone else. They know what they are doing, they know what the victim's are feeling. Heck even the police says that many of these criminals are hard to catch because of their intellegence.

And like I said before I don't care if people say "you'd be going down to their level" Seriously what the heck, I'm not the one going to kill or do whatever do innocent people. Thats like the same line that the cops use, "You have nothing to hide, so why not open your truck?" - what about my privacy?

See, it's your opinion I respect that. My opinion is different, that's just it.

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And no they aren't mentally ill thats also crap. Most of these serial killers out there are smarter than everyone else. They know what they are doing, they know what the victim's are feeling. Heck even the police says that many of these criminals are hard to catch because of their intellegence.


People who are mentally ill don't have to be unable to realise what they are doing to be called mentally ill. My pint is that if you commit a murder, you are ill. that's my point of view, except if you did it to defend yourself.

And of course, I see your point and I respect that. It is just that I can't see how it solves problems to cause equal pain.
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And no they aren't mentally ill thats also crap. Most of these serial killers out there are smarter than everyone else. They know what they are doing, they know what the victim's are feeling. Heck even the police says that many of these criminals are hard to catch because of their intellegence.


People who are mentally ill don't have to be unable to realise what they are doing to be called mentally ill. My pint is that if you commit a murder, you are ill. that's my point of view, except if you did it to defend yourself.

And of course, I see your point and I respect that. It is just that I can't see how it solves problems to cause equal pain.

Alright my bad on the mentally ill part, I get what you mean now, but yeah I kind of have my reasons to believe what I do, but no it has never happened to anyone close to me, but my reasons are others.... Not to mention I wouldn't know If I'd be capable of hurting someone, if they are guilty, heck I can barely even hurt a bug :/

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That would be another point. So if you call yourself a calm and peaceful person, you would somehow hurt your own ideals by punishing another human being.

Oh and if you look at jalils like Guantanamo, you will agree with me that jail can be a very hard form of punishment.
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Well maybe putting them in the hardest jails in the world and making them even tougher i dont know but i know that the English ones are pathetic. They even get a Playstation, what the hell!
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It is pathetic when you get PS2. And Thats mostly why I have my beliefs .rev. Prisons in US< are basically like that as well, they have online, they have PS, they have TV. - Criminals should have none of that stuff. >_>

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